Infantry Gameplay, inf support weapons and defenses: However i am making a short list of what i really liked there and that could work even in BK.ġ. OP 50 mm AT gun, missing building buttons, totally screwed range brackets (worse than BK and it seems only a handfull of tanks like Panther have gotten better adjusted one. So its different and this is not a "what is better topic".
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These are pretty bad things because fuel is thus only needed to reach the tec level but then getting all Tanks literally for free fuel. In fact a lot is managed over call ins and PE can call in Panther Wave after Panther wave without any fuel like in vcoh. Or that you can call in divisions of like 5 shermans for just 1200 MP and no fuel. Or a 50 mm AT gun shooting every 2 seconds and penetrating everything with 85 range is just plain OP. Like PE having Barracks from WH added while also having kampfgruppe and logistic company instead of adding the units from barracks to either of them and it also has no quick button to access them regardless of where your camera is. Its completely different than BK in all regards, some better, some not.
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In a tactical situation, where the Patton's superiority in effective movement range is less of a deciding factor, it would come down more to crew training, luck, and positioning: with the traditional defensive advantage.Įdited to clear up some ambiguous language regarding range and development time.Since this topic popped up ( viewtopic.php?f=27&t=4082) it did make me curious how this mod works and what ideas were brought in there.Īs a pre-note, the game has lots of issues even if it looks awesome. You do all that, then you have some vaguely comparable vehicles, disregarding electronics which can be a big deal breaker in some situations, and irrelevant in others. If the armor can't theoretically stop an M60 round at any meaningful range however, then the armor can be lightened (I think that would be a fairly easy fix: I'm not sure though) which fixes some of the other problems, like the transition which was mentioned previously.ģ) If we can assume away some of the obvious war time caused issues, like the switch in armor manufacture methods which clearly degraded performance, the armor might actually be almost comparable (not sure how much more advanced 1960's armor technology was than 1940's). Probably still inferior to the M60 gun, but still more threatening.Ģ) some adjustments to the armor scheme could be made: the Tiger II was armored as it was because it could theoretically stop Allied weapons. If they had to penetrate more armor though, they could increase armor penetration with a relatively simple changing of munitions and tweak to the gun, evening the odds a bit. They didn't use more penetrating rounds because it wasn't necessary and the increased penetration seems to have come at the cost of less lethality against things like Sherman and T-34s because of over penetration: more penetrating rounds tended to go right through such tanks, only causing casualties if they directly hit a crewmen, while their preferred APCBC-HE shell would penetrate into the tank and then explode/bounce around doing more damage to the tank and crew itself. If you told the Tiger II factory "Here's what a M60 can do, modify the tank to fight it better" there would be a bunch of relatively quick tweaks that could be made to improve effectiveness against the M60 with then present technology.ġ) Penetration could be improved: The 88 had a relatively slow velocity AT gun: 1000 m/s compared to 1,200 m/s of the QF 17-pounder, which was a significantly smaller shell which seems to have had similar penetration abilities with its discarding sabot rounds (something the Germans also used, but more for AA work). Yeah, you have the traditional issue where one weapon system (the Tiger II) is not designed to handle the threat and was effectively a WWII stopgap ( I wouldn't be shocked if the Tiger II's combined development and service period was shorter than the M60s development period alone), while you have another vehicle which was designed to fight systems like the Tiger II (but better) and had the benefit of being a peacetime system with none of the material and time constraints of war.
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